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Bet Tracking Website or App?

I am sure something like this exists but I can't seem to find a decent one. Basically I am looking for a platform where I can put in all my wagers on a certain game and can watch their progress as the game goes on. This would be super helpful with tracking player props and would be a great place for me to "hangout" virtually when I am watching the games.
Bovada has the worst system of viewing open bets ever so any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.
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College football gambling explained by your friends over at /r/CFBVegas

As a longtime reader of this sub and creator of the /CFBVegas subreddit, I notice that lots of people here don't have a full understanding of common betting terms and concepts. I'd love to educate those of you who want to learn so I'll open it up with a quick guide.

Team Point Spread Moneyline O/U
Texas +13.5 +400 42.5
Oklahoma -13.5 -350 42.5
You'll see boxes like this on site like Bovada and now you'll see them on ESPN. This tells you everything about how Vegas views the game. Oklahoma has negative numbers in the point spread and moneyline boxes which lets you know that Vegas thinks Oklahoma is the favorite to win the game. Underdogs will always have positive numbers with a plus sign in the front. This will be our reference.
The Point Spread
Betting on the point spread means you're betting on the final score of the game, not necessarily the winner. It's possible to win by betting on the team that loses. There are two ways to look at a point spread bet. If you bet on Oklahoma (the favorite), you're betting that
  1. Oklahoma will win the game even if you took 13.5 points away from their final score OR
  2. Texas will lose the game even if they began the game with a 13.5 point lead
If you bet on Texas (the underdog), you're betting that
  1. Texas would win the game if you added 13.5 points to their final score OR
  2. Texas will win the game no matter what the final score
Moneyline
This is a straight up bet. If you bet on Oklahoma, you're betting on them winning the game. If you bet on Texas, you're betting on them winning the game. Do you see those large numbers listed in the moneyline column? That lets you know what you stand to win based on a $100 bet. Oklahoma is the favorite listed at -350 meaning you have to bet $350 in order to win $100. Texas is the underdog listed at +400 meaning you could win $400 with a $100 bet. Betting on the underdog is a higher risk but with a higher reward. You have to put up more money on the favorite to get a higher return which is why most people bet on the point spread due to odds closer to 100.
The same negative and positive number concept applies to the point spread. If Oklahoma's point spread bet had -110 next to it, that would mean you have to bet $110 to win $100. Much better reward than betting on the moneyline but riskier because it depends on the score rather than the outcome.
Remember that what you win is in addition to your original bet. If you bet $110 on Oklahoma -110 and the bet wins, you will get your $110 back AND get $100.
O/U
This relates to the final score of the game. With the O/U being 42.5, you'll get the option to bet on the final score adding up to either more or less than 42.5 points. Why is there a .5 if you can't score half of a point in football? It makes it exciting. Imagine betting the over and the final total is 42. That half point screwed you! Vegas always wins :)
Prop Bets
This concerns about events that may happen during the game. Common bets I've seen include whether or not a team scores 3 times in a row, how many turnovers for each team, passing yards for the starting quarterback, etc.
Parlay
This is a bet on multiple games. You can put down a little bit of money and come out with a ton. If you really think you know how the day is going to turn out then you could do a parlay rather than betting on individual games. Parlays allow you to use the winnings from one game to bet on another and then use those winnings to bet on another! What's the catch? All games have to win otherwise the parlay collapses and you lose. A parlay betting slip on point spreads could look like this
For you to win the bet, all 4 teams have to win with their respective point spread. The winnings of the Texas game would be used to bet on UCLA and those winnings would be used to bet on Michigan and so on. A $5 bet would get you $61 and a $100 bet would get you $1220.
Play It Safe
Gambling can be fun but it can also be dangerous. Lots of folks don't take it seriously and end up losing tons of money. What I do is keep it simple. Every year I put up $100 and that's it. If I blow it all on week 1 then I'm done for the year. Last year I did terrible and lost it all in week 3. Second year in a row that I haven't turned a profit but that's okay. If you have a gambling problem or know someone with a gambling problem please call 1-800-522-4700.
Good luck this year and I hope to see all of you at /CFBVegas
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The biggest online sports book doesn’t allow you to view all your open bets?

So Bovada, one of the biggest online sports book, has an online rep telling me you aren’t able to view open bets placed before a certain date. WTF. I know this is not true, but literally that what they are telling me verbatim when I question them. I mean, that’s pretty basic features. ALL sports books allow you to view all open bets you have. These in question were placed from January-March (in regards to the next Super Bowl or the next college championship). One out of every 10 attempts I am able to see my bet. I got the bet at good odds so I have been checking up on it, to make sure it doesn’t disappear. However, the more concerning thing to me is that they have reps telling you “we are sorry but you aren’t able to view all of your open bets”..... like wtf kind of transparency is that?
Anyone have any similar experiences or can provide any feedback? I provided screenshots.
https://imgur.com/a/7LJS1kn
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Conor "Mystic Mac" McGregor (21-4) vs Donald “Cowboy” Cerrone (36-13)

Conor

UFC 246 Odds: McGregor -350/ Cerrone +275

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UFC 246 Odds, Conor McGregor vs Donald "Cowboy" Cerrone Betting Preview & Prediction
Written by Lester Cullan on January 16, 2020
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UFC 246 Odds: McGregor -350/ Cerrone +275
McGregor is a -350 favorite for this welterweight bout and Cerrone at +275
Conor "Mystic Mac" McGregor (21-4) vs Donald “Cowboy” Cerrone (36-13)
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Mystic Mac returns to the welterweight division for the first time since August 2016. He went 1-1 during his first stint in the weight class, both against Nate Diaz. Conor hasn’t won a fight since he became a rare 2 division UFC title holder, cracking Eddie Alvarez like a iron clad champion, and looking like the Irish Hulk Hogan until Mayweather outclassed him with a Mexican Style TKO in 10. True believers knew that a 4 leaf clover from Saint Patrick himself wouldn't of gave The Mystic Mac a chance in a boxing match against the greatest, but Vegas cleaned up as everyone took that underdog sucker bet and 4.3 million domestic pay-per-views exceeding $600 million in revenue.
Past History
McGregor got his beaten from Khabib Nurmagomedov for the lightweight title and to teach him a lesson, clobbering McGregors head and submitting the man like a pure bred MMA champion – all though Conor seems to only lose by submission.
It’s expected that McGregor will get a rematch with Khabib later this year if Khabib wins his title defense in April at UFC 249 against No. 1 lightweight contender Tony Ferguson. That fight has been booked four times before, and each time it’s fallen through for various reasons mostly due to the fact that Ferguson is a animal and animals get wounded.
"UFC president Dana White has gone on record saying that if McGregor defeats Cerrone, he will be on standby to replace either Nurmagomedov or Ferguson at UFC 249. And to be honest with you, Conor believes that Khabib versus Tony is not going to happen.”
What about the Cowboy?
The 36-year-old Cerrone has 23 wins in the UFC since his inception in 2011
Cowboy split at 2-2 last year, losing his final 2 - Ferguson with a 2nd round TKO and then Justin Gaethje with a 1st round stop. A big right hand hurt Cerrone midway through the round, Gaethje finished the job for the win.
Cowboy Cerrone is a record breaking savage, he holds many titles and accolades for fighting in the UFC, but he has many more out of the ring accomplishments that matter to his legacy as well. Donald Cowboy Cerrone is a rare breed of human that is not only extremely dangerous with his kicks and combinations, but he'll also steal your girl and take her horseback riding, and he wins UFC bonuses at will.
Chances are this will not go the distance.
Mac, age 31, has fought to a decision just 2 times and has 18 knockouts including the best UFC meme KO that was a 13-second knockout of Jose Aldo at UFC 194 until Masvidal sent Askren to the stone age.
Cerrone beats opponents and that's a fact, but he can also make you tap and his kicks will make you wanna let him tap you. The integrity of Dana White and the UFC Organization is interesting to say the least, the company needs a Mystic Mac win more than a close to retirement Donald Cerrone victory. The Cowboy needs the win to set up the next pay day, the fans want a upset and the bookies want your money.
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Aleksei Oleinik vs. Maurice Greene
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Aleksa Camur vs. Justin Ledet
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Possible to view Bovada bet history?

I know Bovada is trash/scam/untrustworthy and I don't plan on using them again. I made some bets back in September and on the site they don't show any open bets past 31 days. I requested and received my bet history which has reference #'s and the $$ amount for each bet, but no other details like what the bet is actually on.
Does anyone know of a way to view open bet details using references #'s or any other method? Thanks for any help.
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An Open Letter to the Moderators

I originally intended to send this letter to the moderation team directly. However, after expressing my concerns to two /poker moderators, I was encouraged by anonymous7, our great forum leader, to post my feelings publicly to the forum rather than privately to the mod team so as to foster "open discussion about the state of the moderation team."
 
Tagging Moderation Team of /poker: anonymous7/, NoLemurs/, dalonelybaptist/,BorkaBorkaBorka/, Stixx_27/, myimportantthoughts/, Touch_Of_Red/ , IrEgption/
 
Dear Touch_Of_Red,
 
You and I clearly do not see eye to eye on many issues. I would like to work on improving our relationship. In order to do so, I think we need to address a few issues.
 
With regard to "the recent history with your site" comment you made when removing a post I made comparing the rake schedules on a number of online poker sites, I can only assume that you are referring to Full Flush PokeEquity Poker Network and their recent failiure as a company. I'm not sure what devilish things you think I am guilty of, but there is quite a bit of misinformation floating about on various Internet poker forums. It seems as if you have read this information and bought it all hook line and sinker. I would like to offer additional information in hopes of changing your perspective on the matter.
 
 
You condemn me for being evil, but I help people on this forum every day. On many forums for that matter. I am frequently thanked here and elsewhere. In fact as of Feb 14th, the most recent 100 "comment replies" the word 'thank" has been uttered 13 times in direct response to my posts. A pretty good ratio on a downvote and troll happy board such as /poker don't you think?
 
I also easily comply with the 10:1 ratio of self promotion. Contrary to some of your prior accusations, I do not reply with "one word answers" intended to inflate my post count. In fact, I devised a little experiment to prove this. I copied both mine and your last 100 posts to /poker as of Feb 6th when I started writing this letter. I removed everything but the actual responses and numbered them (files available for review to anyone who wants them). Let's take a look at my metrics versus yours over the last 100 posts to /poker shall we?
 
Your word count = 3,472 Screenshot Proof My word count = 5,865 Screenshot Proof
 
Perhaps you think my website promotes "shady" and "unsafe" sites? I disagree wholeheartedly. I reject each and every site I'm unwilling to risk my own funds on. Here's a full list of sites we work with:
888, PokerStars, PartyPoker, Unibet, Betfair, Full Tilt, Bovada, Bodog, Ignition, America's Cardroom, Black Chip, True Poker, Ya Poker (you may not know this one, it is directly owned by ACR), BetOnline, Sportsbetting.ag, TigerGaming, SWCPoker, Grand Poker, Intertops, Juicy Stakes
 
You will note none of those crazy "play money" Iranian, Israeli, Asian poker sites are in that list. I do not find them worthy of risking my own money on, and thus I do not offer them to our clients. Period.
 
Since 2006 when we opened my website, we have had TWO poker sites fail that we promoted. Full Flush, and PokesPoker. They are separated in failure by 10 years. There were over 70 poker sites that failed during that time period. I think we have a good record for keeping our players away from crappy and terribly unsafe poker sites.
 
The Wiki [Editor's Note: This was part of a prior letter I wrote and wish to include it here as well]
 
Nearly 9 months ago when all of the controversy about the wiki was going on and right after TOR became a moderator, the decision was made to make the wiki only modifiable by moderators. I understand conflict of interest was the main rationale. I was also told that:
"Mods believe they have the time to use the wiki in a better way than it is being used right now."
 
This has proved utterly false. When I was editing the wiki (and I was the main editor for a year or so), I updated it 1-4 times per month as needed. In the nearly 8 months since the wiki was taken over by moderators, it has been edited two times. The first was to remove "affiliate influence and bias." The second was done less than a month ago to update Bovada to Ignition poker, a major event which had taken place a full 3 months prior to the edit).
 
In taking a quick glance over the wiki I saw over a dozen things that need to be updated. However, this is not being done. Mods are not keeping the wiki up to date and it is providing false and out of date information to readers of /poker.
 
I was also told that:
 
"Mods believe they can source discounts themselves, and due to non expectation of benefit for them sourcing it can get better deals than affiliates can."
 
This has also not happened. Not a single deal has been sourced. In fact, things are worse. A deal that gave out thousands of free dollars to poker subscribers was scrapped and never replaced. I fail to see the benefit to the forum in removing free money for subscribers. Other moderators agreed with me and wanted to keep the program live, but were seemingly overruled.
 
I will admit that I was not perfect and that some things could have been handled differently in the wiki, but in the last year I edited the Wiki and the FAQ, after ground rules were set, I always sought moderator approval for changes I thought might be controversial (DaLonelyBaptist/ can confirm this). I also strived to keep the Wiki as up to date as my time would allow, which turns out to be at least 15x more frequently than it is currently being updated.
 
I believe that much of this stems from Touch_Of_Red 's dislike for me. I think he seeks to punish me, "the evil spammer," for some perceived harm he has suffered. I do not think I am what he claims me to be. I constantly help players with issues on this forum, 2+2, CardsChat, and other smaller forums. I receive thanks quite often and I have NEVER been banned from any forum for spamming because I adhere to the stated rules of all forums I participate in.
 
I do not think it is fair to reduce knowledge and opportunity for /poker subscribers simply to punish me because TOR doesn't care for me. I think that if the Wiki rules were reset to what they were prior to TOR becoming a mod, that I could do an even better job of updating the wiki than before. In fact, I've learned a little bit of reddit coding and I feel that I can improve the format of the wiki as well as keeping it up to date, useful, and providing added value to the subscribers of poker.
 
Thanks for your time and thoughtful consideration. I hope that we can improve our relationship and come to some mutual understanding,
Prof
 
EDIT: To the people who still continue to bang the drum that I owned Full Flush Poker, in full, or in part, that is simply untrue. If you want to know who the owners are, look here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=51452632&postcount=2282 . Were things misrepresented to me and did I believe it? It appears the sad truth is, yes. As I said above, I'm going to help anyone who gets in contact with me and lets me know how much they lost. I'm on track to have some sort of public offer up within the next two weeks fingers crossed if I can get more poker sites on board.
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Monday/Thursday Short Slate Preview

I posted about short slates last week and got some good feedback from you guys and thought I'd post something you may want to use this week for M/Th gpps. This is only for gpps and will get you absolutely crushed in cash, so if you decide to use some pieces of it, only do it in gpps.
  1. There aren't any player props up yet, but when they get posted later today you can find them here: https://sports.bovada.lv/football/nfl/minnesota-vikings-chicago-bears-201710092030 There will not be player props for the Thursday game posted yet.
  2. Vegas Line movements are here: https://www.sportsinsights.com/nfl/ Minnesota opened as a -2 point favorite and is now up to -3.5 with 68% of the bets. Most of this has to do with the fact that Chicago is starting a Rookie QB and Bradford now seems likely to play. The line in Carolina is the Panthers -3 and an o/u of 45. The betting is 60/40 on Philly and the line is the same. The over has moved up to 46 with 82% of the betting.
  3. I think based on Newton's last 2 games, he's going to be the highest owned QB on this slate, and probably by a significant margin. The public is likely going to flock to a "name" QB playing at home in a national game, coming off of 2 great games. And the public might be right. However....
  4. I use the Rotoviz Game Splits app a lot and it basically shows you the breakdown of players individual splits based on a variety of factors, location, opponent, point spread, number of pass attempts, etc. There's a ton of them. However if you break down Newton since the start of last year his basic home/road split is kind of telling: He averages 4 points more on the road than at home.
  5. I've started using FantasyADHD and their adjusted matchup app to look at how different teams lineup statistically. http://fantasyadhd.com/matchups/ The two categories I use are "expected points" and "Differential" The guy who runs it participates in a Slack chat I'm in and has some good insights. If you look at Caronlina's QB matchup for this week, it's a bit above average in expected points but actually a bit of a downgrade for Newton based on the differential selection. (If you use the link above, for the Differentials going left to right is "good to bad on average" and green is "good" for a plus matchup for the offense and red is "bad" or a downgrade for the offense.) So now, I feel o.k. in the assumption that Cam will be over owned, his home splits are worse than his road, and statistically, this isn't some kind of can't miss situation for Cam.
  6. The ADHD matchup isn't wild about the Philly and Carolina WR's. Combining that info with the higher point total in the Thursday game, I would guess a lot of ownership flows to that game. Based on that, I think this opens up value in the Minn WR. Diggs will probably be highly owned, but if you look at the Week 5 WR matchups on the ADHD tool, you'll see that Minnesota has both good expected point totals for WR's and a good differential. Diggs has 4 TDs in 3 games vs the Bears. Thielen will probably be under owned and seems to possible provide a good pivot to the Carolina/Philly guys. The QB matchup is considered a bit of a positive for the Vikings as well. Anyway, it's an interesting tool that you can play around with.
  7. I think the prevailing view will be people liking McCaffery and the ADHD matchup doesn't really look promising for him. Murray has a bad matchup using the ADHD tools and Blount's is viewed as good under the tools. I would think a lot of people might float towards Murray as the Vikings are a favorite in their game. I'm thinking that the Bears RB's are kind of the wild card here. On the one hand, the Bears are starting a rookie QB so conventionally wisdom would be they lean on the running game to help him out. Yet, they are playing the Vikings who have a good run D. Using the ADHD tools, it's viewed as an ok/slightly above matchup for expected points, but it's actually a downgrade under the differential tool. Howard ran for over 100 yards in each meeting against the Vikings last year and Cohen has had his two best games at home this year although the game script and small sample size alerts applies here.
  8. At TE I assume Ertz will be the chalk with good reason. I'm just locking him in, although on sites like DK with a flex I could see trying to play Rudolph. I think Dickson will be over owned based off of what he did yesterday.
What does this all mean? I'm starting to think in general terms that the Vikings/Bears game has a shot of going over the total and the PantheEagles will probably go under, which is probably going against the conventional wisdom on this slate. I think you can fade Cam and get some value with Bradford (or even Keenum) and stack both Minnesota WR's to gain an attack plan. If you play around with the ADHD matchup thing, I think it shows there's a pretty good chance McCaffery doesn't put up a monster game, so I'm going to do the "double fade" on some of my lineups and essentially just skip the Panthers offense. I don't think most people will even think about this (and maybe they're right) so it will probably create a lot of unique lineups. I also think
TLDR: there's some statistical/game theory support to fade the Panthers offense, stock up on Minnesota's Passing game, play Ertz and mix and match RB's from the other 3 teams. Yes, on this kind of slate it's o.k to play Viking WR's and Bears RBs together.
There is massive downside with fading the team with the highest implied point total on a 2 game slate, but to succeed in short slate gpps you have to have a unique way to attack the slate. Again, this is absolute suicide in cash games but if you're willing to accept risk in gpps, it's probably a good angle for this slate.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I would sprinkle liberal doses of McKinnon in at RB.
2nd Edit: Deonte Thompson is a cheap receiver that will likely avoid Xavier Rhodes and he gets "The Human Turnstile" Trae Waynes.
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Blazers Betting Guide by a scrub

This is my for fun guide to betting the Blazers' Season Props. I do not claim to be an expert in any way on any of this. I only make relatively small bets because I find it enhances my viewing experience of the nba season. That said I've done my share of research, and I thought some of you may appreciate a Blazers focused betting discussion. These lines are taken from Bovada, since that is the site I just happen to use.

Bets

Over 42 Under 42
-135 +105
$20 on the over could get you $14.81.
As soon as this line opened a lot of people were calling this a fairly easy over, and the odds have shifted to reflect that somewhat. Blazers won 49 games last year and had the +/- of a 46 win team. Biggest offseason personnel changes came in our 2nd unit with the loss of Ed and Shabazz. Additionally, everyone agrees the West became harder with the addition of Lebron, the development of key young players on teams like Utah and Denver, and restored health on teams like Memphis and the Clippers. I don't think these will be enough to push the Blazers down to a 41 win team though. Lillard and CJ have been dependably healthy over the last several years, and I find it difficult to believe Lillard won't will this team to a 42 win season even if we are somehow falling apart. Though I don't think this is as easy of an over as last year's was, I think it is still one of the safer bets you can make.
Blazers Make Playoffs Blazers Miss Playoffs
-105 -125
$20 on making the playoffs could get you $19.05.
Who makes and misses the playoffs in the west has been debated quite a bit this offseason. And for good reason. Lebron carried a less talented team to the 4 seed last year in the east, and it seems foolish to bet against the King getting the Lakers to at least the 8 seed. The Nuggets missed out by one game last year, despite Millsap only playing 35 games for them and Jamal Murray not consistently starting for them until halfway through the season. Who are your two teams to miss the playoffs? The Timberwolves? The Nuggets? The Spurs? The Blazers? Personally I'd be surprised if we didn't make the playoffs this year, but I'm a homer and I still recognize that this bet is pretty risky. Ultimately I ended up staying away from this one.
Damian Lillard MVP
+3500
$20 on a Lillard MVP could get you $700
Ok, hear me out on this one. No big "storylines" are building for someone else to win the MVP this year (see Westbrook and Harden's MVPs), and I think the winner this year will be someone new. Lillard finished 4th last year in MVP voting. He has improved every season he has been in the league. He was 4th last year in PPG. He always has a stretch of games where he destroys the league. I can conceivably see an outcome where that stretch of games lasts half the season and Lillard carries us to the 3rd seed. Also.. AD often gets injured, Kawhi is rusty, Steph/KD cannibalize each other, Lebron won't try this year, Harden just won and isn't good enough to win again, Westbrook sucks, Giannis' team isn't good enough. Personally, I put a 50 cent bet down on this for fun. Probably a waste of money, but my god if this happens that will be the sweetest $17 I ever earn in my life.
Damian Lillard PPG Leader
+1200
$20 on Lillard could get you $240
Harden won this by quite a bit last year with 30.4 ppg. AD was 2nd with 28.1 ppg, and Lillard was 4th with 26.9 ppg. I don't see Lillard's usage going up, or our pace changing significantly. His efficiency last year was also right around his career average. It would take a significant change for Lillard to pass Harden to take this award, especially since Houston's offense is specifically built for Harden to score a lot. Personally I avoided this one.
Blazers win Northwest Division
+650
$20 could get you $130
Though we are the Defending Champs, we are the predicted to finish last in our division sadly. It's possible we could surprise people again and defend our title, but I think the odds would have to be better for this to be a good bet. Personally I avoided this one.
Blazers win Western Conference
+7500
$20 could get you $1500
Everyone can dream right? Honestly though, if you are going to put money on this, you might as well go all the way. Personally I avoided this one.
Blazers win it all
+15000
$20 could get you $3000
NOW we're talking! Though seeing as how the Blazers have lost the last 10 playoffs games in a row, this is probably a foolish bet. And without wing depth, we don't match up well against many of the teams that make deep runs in the playoffs. But WHO KNOWS WHAT COULD HAPPEN?!? Personally I avoided this one.
So that is my breakdown of the Blazer's Season Props for the year. Blazer's oveunder has got to be the best bet on the board, but still isn't a surefire thing. So as a bonus, here is my personal favorite bet for the upcoming nba season.
Jazz win Northwest Division
+220
$20 could get you $44.
After starting 17-26 for the first half of last year, the Jazz finished with a 48-34 record. During their run they strengthened their bench through trades, they got Gobert back after he missed a ton of games, and Mitchell made his case for RotY. Though I doubt they keep up they crazy pace they were on during the second half of last year, I think they are a lock for winning the NW division, especially at +220 odds. Many people are picking them to finish 3rd (or even 2nd) in the west. Their main competition in the division is considered to be OKC, who just found out Robertson will be out til December and Westbrook will miss the first chunk of games with a lingering injury. The Timberwolves are a dumpster fire, and both the Nuggets and the Blazers like to lose games they should win. On top of this, the Jazz have the 2nd best homecourt advantage in the league via altitude. They are also 4-0 in the preseason, if that means anything to you. If the Jazz make the leap most people think they will, I think this is a great bet at +220.
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r/mma UFC 168 Ultimate Viewer's Guide – How to watch, Fight Previews, Media, Odds and more

I heard you like rematches. Well then you’re in for a treat. Saturday brings us UFC 168, headlined by one of the biggest rematches in UFC history at an event that promoter Dana White hypes as the UFC’s biggest ever. Chris Weidman and Anderson Silva will square off in an immediate rematch to determine if Weidman’s first victory was a one-time occurrence or if he really is the better fighter. The co-main features another championship rematch between the face of women’s MMA, Ronda Rousey, and her less-than-best-friend Miesha Tate.
Here you will find a basic primer for new and casual fans, as well as collection of links and useful information for the fans of any degree. Check the comment section to find the post continuation for "How to Watch" information, etc.
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Event Date: Saturday, Dec 28, 2013
Location: MGM Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada

FIGHT CARD

All odds taken from Bovada at time of post. Visit the link to view fractional (UK) and decimal (AU) odds.

Format:

Weightclass(lbs): Fighter (US odds) vs. Fighter (US odds)
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PPV Main Card (10:00 pm ET / 7:00 pm PT) - See “How to Watch” for your local time.
  • Middleweight Championship (185): Chris Weidman (+140) vs. Anderson Silva (-170)
  • Women’s Bantamweight Championship (135): Ronda Rousey (-750) vs. Miesha Tate (+475)
  • Heavyweight (265): Josh Barnett (-200) vs. Travis Browne (+160)
  • Lightweight (155): Jim Miller (-400) vs. Fabrício Camões (+300)
  • Featherweight (145): Dustin Poirier (-230) vs. Diego Brandao (+180)
FOX Sports 1 Prelims (8:00 pm ET / 5:00 pm PT)
  • Middleweight (185): Chris Leben (+240) vs. Uriah Hall (-310)
  • Lightweight (155): Gleison Tibau (-160) vs. Michael Johnson (+130)
  • Featherweight (145): Dennis Siver (-270) vs. Manny Gamburyan (+210)
  • Welterweight (170): John Howard (+130) vs. Siyar Bahadurzada (-160)
Online Prelims (7:00 pm ET / 4:00 pm PT)
  • Welterweight (170): William Macario (+145) vs. Bobby Voelker (-175)
  • Featherweight (145): Robbie Peralta (-200) vs. Estevan Payan (+160)

MAIN EVENT

Chris Weidman (Champion) vs. Anderson “The Spider” Silva (Challenger)
"Tale of the Tape" Fighter stats
Recently crowned middleweight champion Chris Weidman defends his belt against its former owner and former number 1 pound-for-pound fighter Anderson Silva. The two first met at UFC 162 in July of this year, where Weidman handed Silva his first loss since 2006 and first ever loss by knockout.
The second round knockout over one of the greatest fighters of all time shocked the MMA world. Few predicted such a dramatic finish despite Weidman entering the fight with the narrowest betting odds for one of Silva’s opponents in several years, and with many of his fellow fighters favoring him for the upset victory.
The nature of the Silva’s loss sparked a barrage of allegations from fans and media that ranged from questioning his motivation to accusing him of intentionally throwing the fight. The showmanship and provocation inside the cage that has become a staple of Silva’s fights was believed by many fans to be his downfall. Perhaps the single most discussed subject leading into the rematch is whether Silva will once again taunt Weidman in an effort to draw him into his own game, play to the audience, or both.
Silva remains enigmatic as always in his interviews, maintaining that the loss had nothing to do with his in-cage antics and claiming he doesn’t plan any significant changes in the rematch. He attributes the loss to “basic mistakes” and enters the rematch with what appears to be a reignited motivation to win that may have been waning in recent times.
Weidman stated prior to the first fight that he was willing and expecting to have an immediate rematch with Silva if or when he beat him at UFC 162. At the post-fight press conference he never wavered from that willingness, and one week later Silva had signed on to the rematch himself. Leading up to the first fight, Weidman was coming off of an extended layoff due to shoulder surgery, and also experienced the loss of his home to Hurricane Sandy. He admits that those issues had an effect on his performance, and expects to step into the cage as an even stronger competitor this weekend.
Dana White has stated that Vitor Belfort is next in line for a title shot against the winner, barring the possibility of something “crazy” happening. If Weidman wins, that will undoubtedly be the next fight. Silva on the other hand has been talking about his desire to fight famed boxer Roy Jones Jr. in a boxing match long before his first fight with Weidman at UFC 162, and hoped to do so with a win that night. The loss brought discussion of those plans to a temporary halt, but Silva maintains his interest in that boxing match. White has said he is open to discussing the proposed fight, but any future plans are limited to that statement. Either way that potential matchup may take a backseat to Silva fighting Vitor.
Edit: Silva also mentions in his pre-fight interview linked below (which came out after writing this post) that retirement is an option after the fight, but he is known for just messing with the media and being obtuse. There could be truth to it, or it could mean nothing.
Referee:
Veteran ref Herb Dean draws main event duty. The announcement of the assignment was almost unanimously well received by mma. Dean is considered one of the top refs in MMA. He also was the third man in the cage when Weidman and Silva first fought at UFC 162.
Judges:
Chris Lee, Patricia Morse-Jarman, and Junichiro Kamijo will judge the main event. All three judges are in the top 15 for most fights judged, according to MMADecisions.com
Media:
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Headlines:

CO-MAIN EVENT

“Rowdy” Ronda Rousey (Champion) vs. Miesha “Cupcake” Tate (Challenger)
“Tale of the Tape”
The co-main event features another rematch, with another title on the line. Similar to the Weidman vs. Silva matchup, the roles are reversed for the competitors here as well. However, the fight timeline and circumstances of this meeting are quite different.
In March, 2012, Rousey and Tate met for the first time in the now defunct Strikeforce promotion. Rousey successfully submitted Tate by armbar in the first round to take the belt and dislocated Tate’s elbow in the process. At the time it was Rousey’s 5th victory of her MMA career, and 5th first-round armbar submission. Since then she has continued this trend two more times before facing off against Tate again.
The rivalry between the two women dates back to before their first fight. It didn’t look like they would cross paths again so soon after Tate lost a number 1 contender fight against Cat Zingano to determine Rousey’s second title defense as the UFC’s bantamweight champion. Zingano and Rousey were selected to coach opposite each other on the UFC’s The Ultimate Fighter reality show with plans to fight afterward, however, a knee injury forced Zingano out of the fight and coaching job. This paved the way for Tate as a replacement, given the ease of promoting the rematch between the rivals and the reality television appeal of the matchup.
Tate admits that she went into the first fight too emotionally charged due to her dislike of Ronda, which she believes hindered her performance. Ronda says she is ready to finish Tate again and close the door on their rivalry, which is more personal than competitive in nature. She is confident that she has made significant improvements since they first fought, at which point she had done very little full-contact MMA sparring.
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Continued in comments...
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Week 5 NFL Line Movement and Thursday Night Player Props

Edit: Gronk has been ruled out since I originally posted this. Cooks yardage prop went up a bit and so did the passing yardage prop for Winston. The TD prop for Winston is at 1.5, -190 on the over. I believe it opened up at -175.
https://www.sportsinsights.com/nfl/
https://sports.bovada.lv/football/nfl/quarterback-props-market-group
Cleveland opened as a -1 point home favorite, but with 70% of the betting the Jets are now a -1 road favorite. This is the only line that has switched the favorite.
Oakland/Baltimore opened as a pick-em game primarily because Carr is out, and with only 46% of the bets on them, the Raiders are now -2.5 point home favorites. This Reverse Line Movement kind of speaks volumes about how bad heavy bettors must view Baltimore's offense. The player prop bets on EJ Manuel should be interesting on Sunday.
KC/Houston also opened as a pickem and with 68% of the bets on KC, the Chiefs are now a -1 point road favorite.
Indy opened as a -1 point home favorite and with 55% of the bets on the Colts, they've actually moved down to either -1 or a pick'em, which again indicates RLM.
The player pros for Thursday night have been released and Tom Brady has a passing yardage prop of 315.5 with -130 on the over. The passing yardage number will probably be one of the 10 highest props for the year and the juice on the over makes it seem like he's in for a potential very big game. His Passing TD prop is 2.5 with -125 on the over, also very favorable.
The scoring props have Gronk at -175 and Gillislee at -120 to score TD's for the Pats. Cooks at +110 and Hogan at +120 are next for them.
Evans is even money for the Bucs with Doug Martin (yeah, he's back from suspension) being next in line at +130. I found Martin being ahead of Rodgers and everyone else besides Evans on Tampa a little interesting.
Evans has the highest receiving yardage prop at 77.5, -125 over and Gronk is next at 72.5 at even money.
Good luck
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Any interest in a new YouTube poker series?

I'm thinking about starting a poker video series on YouTube. Here are some of my ideas:
  1. Bankroll challenge on Bovada turning $100 into $xxx through sit and gos. I would discuss sit and go strategy, use software such as ICMizer, and play live sessions. $100 + sit and gos is how I initially built up my roll on Bovada, so I think it would be cool to show others how it can be done.
  2. An introduction to poker theory. I would go over key theory ideas such as optimal bluffing frequency, minimum defense frequency, value-to-bluff-ratio when c-betting, and so on. My goal would be to show how different poker theory concepts are all connected to each other, and how they can be used to construct strategies and to actually alter the way you play.
  3. Random concept videos. Basically if something interesting comes up while I'm studying poker, I'll discuss is it in depth and explore it further. It may be something like "defending versus 3-bets," "constructing preflop opening ranges," or "playing a 15 big blind stack on the button in an MTT." I may also review hand histories occasionally.
I'm probably best qualified to do #1, but for #2 and #3, I would simply discuss ideas that others can extrapolate on, rather than give out hard answers.
So do you think there is any demand for this? I know streams are more popular, but my internet is lacking, so that's why I'd make videos instead, and with videos it's easier to plan ahead and create something with a specific purpose.
I don't care about getting too many views. Mainly I want to work on speaking, give back to the community, and learn the concepts I'm discussing better for myself by figuring out how to explain them to others.
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An Early Look at Week 7 Vegas Lines

Edited at 6:25 P.M. EST
The team line have gone up to 27 1/2 on GB with a -135 on the over. Chicago has gone up to 18 1/2 with -130 on the over. The passing yards props have gone up for each QB as well.
As always, I use https://www.sportsinsights.com/free-odds/ to look at line movement.
I'm going to talk more about the Thursday Night game but it brings up an aspect of using the lines that no one really talks about, but for the rest of the week, there are already a couple of interesting trends.
The o/u in the Washington/Detroit game started at 51, it's now been bet down to between 50 and 49. This is despite the fact that 81% of the bets have come in on the over. My take away is that this means the sharps are substantially betting the under.
On a similar note the o/u in Oakland/Jacksonville opened at 50 and 58% of the action has been on the over. The line is now 47.5 or 47. Again, seems like the sharps are strongly suggesting the under in the game.
The only player prop bets that I've seen released are for the PackeBears game tonight. I generally look at the player props from here: https://sports.bovada.lv/football/nfl/chicago-bears-green-bay-packers-201610202025
Vegas has the o/u for passing yards for both Hoyer and Rodgers set at 269, with each favored on the over (-120 Hoyer, -125 Rodgers). The other player props are listed at the link, and nothing too noteworthy stands out From a DFS perspective the o/u on yardage by WRs is probably the only other thing of interest and the wagers are 80 1/2 for Jeffrey, 74 1/2 for Nelson and 70 1/2 for Meredith. This suggests that Meredith is once again viewed as a good play by Vegas.
There is a bet that I wanted to point out, that no one ever really discusses which I think provides a lot of information about how Vegas looks at games. The o/u for this is currently 46 and the Packers are 8.5 point favorites. A lot of people will cite the "implied" total as then being the Packers at 27 (26.75) and the Bears at 19 (18.75). While that's true in the sense of using the line and o/u, it's not actually what Vegas is predicting.
Rather, Vegas offers a separate wage on the points scored by each team. In this case the o/u on Packers points is 27 with the over a healthy -130 favorite. The o/u on the Bears is 17, with an even -115 on both sides. What this tells me is that as opposed to the "implied" number, Vegas actually thinks the Packers are closer to scoring 29-30 points, with the Bears at 17, if the total is really around 46. These lines don't get publicized by people very much, but I used the specific team lines quite a bit in MLB and found it more accurate than the implied team runs from the o/u. The action on the juice, i.e. a more heavily weighted negative number should be looked at as a more heavily favored to occur event, helped lead me to some plays for MLB that I think others missed by just relying on the "implied" number. Again, this is based on my experience, but if you're going to start following the lines more closely, this is something I'd start to focus on.
Good luck
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TNF Player Props and Line Movement

https://www.sportsinsights.com/nfl/
https://sports.bovada.lv/football/nfl/washington-redskins-dallas-cowboys-201711302025
Dallas opened up as -1 point home favorites, but with 70% of the betting on Washington, Washington has moved to a -2 point favorite. The o/u in the game opened at 44 and with 65% of the betting on the over, it has now moved to 46.5. That's a lot of movement on a short week and in my view, bad movement for the Cowboys.
For Player Props:
Cousins: 279 -140 over
Dak: 217 -125 over
Passing TDs:
Cousins: 1.5 -215 over
Dak: 1.5 even
Rushing Yards:
Perine 77 (-125 over), Morris 65 (even), Dak 22 (-125 over)
Receiving Yards:
Crowder 70 (-130 over), Dez 61 (-125 under), V. Davis 49 (-135 over), Doctson 47 (-125 over), Witten 39 (even), T. Williams (-125 under), Beasley 19 (-145 over)
Scoring a Touchdown:
Perine -115, CrowdeDez +120, Morris/Witten/Doctson/Davis +150, T. Williams +175, R. Smith +200, Beasley +250
TL:dr "Fire up Washington guys"
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A noob's How To - Hand Analysis with Pokeit

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I am writing this to help new players review sessions so they can find quality hands to post. This is especially targeted towards Bovada since Pokeit is one of the few solutions that can handle its hand histories.
First, why post hands? While experience is a great teacher, once that beginner's luck starts wearing off you will probably start wondering if you suck. The bad news is yes, you do suck, and some players are noticing this and exploiting you. The good news is threefold: 1. At the micros, almost everyone sucks, 2. Bovada is extremely soft so even in your sucking you may be ahead of the curve, and 3. There are people like myself and others on this subreddit that are willing to help.
Second, why review sessions? There are many reasons; I personally like to review to make sure the leaks I have plugged are still plugged, and identify new leaks to work on. I prefer to review sessions where I felt like I was on my A-game, whether winning or losing. B-game or C-game sessions, while relevant, are not as important to me since mental game leaks are not fixable through tracking software or through posting hands. This merits its own topic; to put it in a nutshell: Playing distracted and tilting are such major leaks that fixing them should take priority over any other things you want to work on.
Ok, so we post hands because we know we suck and want to improve, and we review sessions to track the progress of our (non-mental) game. I am now going to show you a sample session review and the thought processes I go through. First, download and install Pokeit (pokeit.co). Then, after your session on Bovada, request to download the hand history file for any session you would like to review. Now open the Pokeit app and it will automatically sync the hand history file to the cloud where you can review in your internet browser.
From your Pokeit homepage, create a new filter by session, then sort by date and time played. Star hands where you won or lost pots <10 BB's. Now filter by starred hands and sort by date and time. Click each hand to view in the sidebar; you may want to use the hand replayer for particularly interesting hands. The main questions you want to be asking yourself are: Did I lose the minimum? Did I win the maximum? From there you can begin analyzing lines (generic methods of play). The four lines are:
  1. The tight-aggressive line. Raise or reraise preflop, cbet most flops. Bet scare cards on the turn and river. Range varies in tournaments, in cash game is generically 77+, ATs+, AQ+, KQ, KJs, Qjs.
  2. The tight-passive line. Call preflop, cbet 30%. Check and call versus bet and raise. Range is the same as above.
  3. The loose-aggressive line. Same behaviors and cbet as tight-aggressive but range includes all pocket pairs, any suited ace, any combination of nines-aces (i.e. K9, QT, etc.), and any suited connector or one-gapper.
  4. The loose-passive line. Same behaviors and cbet of tight-passive but same range as loose-aggressive.
Confused yet? Read and study these lines since they are essential to analyzing your own play. These are blueprints of strong opponents and ideal opponents that will help you understand why some players play the way they do. It boils down to this: Tight opponents are going to be easier to assign a range. Loose opponents will have wider ranges. Aggressive opponents will be betting and raising; passive opponents will be checking and calling.
Now that you understand your four basic opponents determine how each would play your hand. Here's an example: You have ATo in middle position six-handed. An aggressive opponent is going to raise preflop; a passive one is going to limp in. Here's another: You have ATo in the small blind six-handed and the button raises 2x. An aggressive opponent is going to reraise; a passive one is going to just call. A final set of examples: You have A8s in the CO six-handed. A tight opponent is going to fold; a loose one is going to open raise if aggressive, limp or call if passive.
The final step to a successful foundation for analysis is to use the four lines for opponents on the flop, turn, and river. Example: You have AK in position on a K87tt board. A passive opponent is going to check behind. An aggressive one is going to cbet. Example2: You have 99 in position on a Q825A board and villian checks. An aggressive opponent is going to bet the scare card. A passive one is gong to check behind.
Now that you have your foundation you can move on to actual analysis. When analyzing identify the actions you took as passive or aggressive and determine if they were ideal for your opponents' perceived range and actual stats. Do the same from your opponents' point of view. You should be looking for things like betting tells, overly passive or aggressive behavior, fear of scare cards, willingness to bet draws, etc. Once you have identied these, post the hand(s) in question with your analysis and a link to the Pokeit replayer. The community may have additional insights that will help you improve your game.
Tl;dr: Session analysis is a tool you can use to improve your game and identify hands with troublesome/interesting spots. Through Pokeit, you can analyze your sessions and post hands with a link to a replayer.
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400nl River Shenanigans

Bovada 6 max game. Interesting situation that arose in a SB v BB battle. Kinda feel like I'm spazzing here, but I have a few reasons for raising the river.
Villain is playing 36/21 with a 12.5% 3bet over 44 hands can't draw exact conclusions here, but villain seems to be a lag reg. He's definitely a thinking player as I've seen him make thin value bets and has been very aggressive preflop.
Hero should be viewed as TAG given my tight play during his time at the table.
Effective stack 400
Hero opens A3cc in the SB to 12 Villain calls
Flop (24) 555 Hero C-bets 14 Villain calls
I'd rather just C bet this flop and put pressure on his K/Q high hands since he knows that I'll be C betting with almost my entire range.
Turn (52) Qh Hero checks Villain bets 26 Hero calls
River (104) Tc Hero checks villain bets 64 hero raises to 165.25
Probably a spew, but I have a few reasons as to why I would raise river rather then hero call or fold.
  1. Firstly I think that I could play lots of value hands this way like 45,56,A5, AA, KK, Qx, TT. Probably wouldn't raise Qx depends how thinly I think he value bets river.
  2. Villain can call me wide on the flop any pair 22-88, Ax, Kx, Qx, and some 5x. So if he can call me wide on the flop I think it is reasonable for me to check turn with value hands to give the laggier player room to value bet or bluff
  3. My final reason was that he can value bet thinly here thinking I can hero him. Additionally I think this opponent is competent enough to put the pieces together that I wouldn't be bluffing here with this raise sizing and given my tight image.
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NBA, NFL, MLB, NHL striking various business deals with gambling-related firms

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After nearly a century of zero-tolerance policies that treated gambling as a mortal threat, U.S. sports leagues are rapidly cutting deals with companies involved in sports betting.
To varying degrees, the leagues are partnering - openly and in secret - with oddsmakers, betting prognosticators and data providers that make sports wagering possible in the digital age, according to interviews with a range of sports gambling officials and experts.
For years, U.S. sports leagues have steadfastly opposed attempts to legalize Vegas-style sports betting, fearing it would corrupt their sports.
As recently as November, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell reiterated his opposition to sports betting, telling ESPN's Mike & Mike Show: "We think that is a mistake for sports."
Bovada is one of the largest online providers of illegal sports betting in the U.S. Sportradar provides odds for Bovada, which offers live betting on a variety of global sports, including NFL games.
Jeff Ifrah, a Washington attorney who has represented numerous clients in the gambling industry, said the partnerships show how the NFL no longer views sports betting as a threat to the sport's integrity - regardless of Goodell's pronouncements.
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[Table] IAmA pro poker player with over $3 Million in online winnings, been in Time Magazine and on Good Morning America for Poker

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Date: 2012-04-18
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Questions Answers
You're about to die. There is an amateur poker player sitting right next to you. You decide that your final words will encompass the most important thing you have learned throughout your years of pro poker. WHAT ARE YOUR FINAL WORDS??? Tldr: gimme some good poker tips. 1st off, your screenname is priceless...This one's an easy one for me though. Never let your ego get in the way of continuing to try and learn as much as you can about the game. Too many players hit a point where they start to win and then refuse to admit they can always learn more. I call this the game over point lol.
Can you loan me a few hundred bucks? my tv just shit the bed. You take Full Tilt transfers?
Does that eventually translate to real cash lol, Haha we can only pray.
I wish this wasn't a joke. A friend of mine won an FTOPS event a few days before they were raided and hadn't withdrawn in months. Sigh, yea I know...I just try and use humor not to punch holes in walls.
Can I ask how much did you lose when FT went tits up? I didn't get killed very badly, I was taking some time off poker so had a good chunk of my online roll off the sites. I was saying in an earlier post I was with a buddy who had about 200k online at the time when we found out the shit hit the fan. Never thought I'd see someone get that emotional, but clearly understandable. :/
Are you the Jason Lee that recently got signed to Lock Poker? I would be that same Jason Lee.
I assume that you would recommend this site to US players as opposed to bovada and the like? As this a merge skin, how confident should US players be about depositing mobnies on this site. I cant stand Bovada btw. Yea, I actually never even got on Bovada because I just heard the most tilting stories about it. I'm personally very confident with my money on Lock, and not just saying that because I'm one of their pros. The upper management there actually cares about their players and is constantly looking to improve the customer experience. This is something I respect a lot about them.
I only have money on Bovada....well I do have a few hundo still on Full Tilt...those fucks. If you're interested in moving over, shoot me a PM before you get on, I get some special perks I can offer people that create accounts.
Pretty much....I actually laughed at the customer service rep that I talked to, said, "you fuckin kidding me" and hung up. Yea, I had a buddy that just posted a blog about that jacking a bunch of cash from him as well. I'd be scared playing on a site that it's sister site (Blow-dog)'s domain just got appropriated by the DOJ.
Are you still living in the states playing online or have you moved eslewhere? Been literally bouncing all over the place as of late, but all in the states. I'm currently doing this Reddit from Vegas. Seems like a decent place to be? lol Most of my friends went to Canada, Costa Rica and a few to Panama and Thailand.
How hard is it to do your taxes? The first year I did them it was hell because I didn't stay on top of keeping records and had to retro go back and do everything. Since then I learned my lesson and stayed on top of keeping records. Its still annoying though every year when everyone is talking about getting their returns and I'm writing a check to Uncle Sam.
But you get to write off your losses, right? I'd imagine that good records are very important. Does the IRS keep a special watch on pro gamblers for audit purposes? Seems like one of those professions that would be red flagged by them. Yea, and they actually changed the legislation this year that if you have a net losing year, you can actually roll those loses into future years...a.k.a lose 10k this year, make 100k next...only pay taxes on 90k.
Most money you've ever lost in one pot? Don't play a tooooon of cash games, so prolly only a few thousand in that department. The biggest tournament I've played and busted was a 20k buyin in France. I had lots of beers after that one.
only a few thousand in that department. That'd pay my rent and feed me for half a year. Fair as fuck :) Hah, yea...I try not to get greedy like some players. I'm happy when I lose $1 and mad when I lose .01. lol.
How much vanished into the Full Tilt black hole? Any funds lost on the evil twins aka UB/AP? I actually didn't get killed as much as a lot of my friends because it was during my 8 month hiatus from the game last year so I didn't have a ton on there. I had some friends though that had a couple hundred k on there and was with them when they found out it all went bye bye. Let's just say I saw a lot of people get a lot more emotional than I ever expected to see them get.
I'll go for the classic question... how much of poker is strategy, and how much is luck? And what can a player do when their luck sucks? Oldie but a goodie (I heard an old person say that once lol)...I'd say if I had to put numbers on it, about 65% skill, 30% luck and 5% how much the poker gods love you. These numbers I think against worse players move to 70-75% skill because you're able to read them better and push them around more effectively. I will never deny though that there definitely is a luck factor involved, its just not the predominant factor in determining who wins and who loses.
How do you distinguish between luck and the poker gods? I'm an atheist, but if praying to the poker gods can give me a 5% edge, I'll take it. If you can maximize what you win with the best hands and minimize what you lose with the worst, that I consider skill. Actually getting the best and worst hands, thats the luck part. Also getting it in as a big favorite = skill, losing as a big favorite=luck.
I'm no pro, but I've always said that in poker skill is what helps you get lucky, would that be adequate? Ehhh, when you need to get lucky is usually only when you get your money in bad, so technically it would be something only happening when you're playing less than optimally. However, it would be adequate to say that a skilled player will take better advantage of hitting a miracle card or getting lucky.
Is it true that the key to winning is just winning a little bit, then leaving the table? Def disagree with this. A lot of people after they see me win a pot are like ooooo take that cash and run. The thing is, if you're in a good game, you should stay in that game as long as you're playing well and the game stays a good game. I also think I play a lot better when I'm winning, so I will def keep playing.
I'm mainly a tournament guy so they usually don't let me leave after I win a pot :P.
How about online poker? What do you think? If I'm having a bad day, I'll unregister from the rest of my tournaments so I can proceed to ram my head into the wall. But I feel like its the same as live, if you're playing well and in a good game; stay in it. If people are willing to give cash away, stay and take it :)
What do you think is the major difference between online and real life poker? I reallllly like online because I'm about as ADD as they come. I usually play 10-20 tables at once, mainly to keep my mind busy and keep me from doing anything stupid and playing too many hands. This is the biggest difference I see.
As per strategy wise, live players love to call more (and bigger) 3 bets preflop ~ they just refuse to not defend here, the blinds usually defend a lot more live as well, raise sizes usually need to be bigger live to accomplish the same annnndd.....those are the main differences that pop into my mind.
You can of course also see your opponent to allow for making more reads and they make me wear pants live :(
We need to get you some Adderall. You would be unstoppable! Lol, used it before...I think I was the definition of "dialed in".
What do you mean by defend. Basically when you raise someone's blind and they choose to not fold and fight you in the pot with a mediocre to bad holding they might normally fold, this is called defending. Usually its to send you a message to stop 3 betting them or stop stealing their blinds.
Hell of a story man, I get the same feel when I go mini-golfing with my BROS and on the 18th hole the ball just floats, time stops, my mind goes numb, and it just sinks right in for a hole in one. Then I'm like FREE ROUND BITCHES. I enjoy playing 10-2 off-suit in low buyin games just to fuck with people, you should try that for me someday. I hope you're comfortable because I've been waiting for a pro poker player for a long time now, I ain't goin anywhere. If you could play poker with any 5 people (living or dead, fictional or real), who would they be? Great question... outside of just saying EVERYONE of the business men playing in the huge Macau game...if it were purely a social game Superman, The Devil, Ivey, Dwan and Howard Lederer...the first 4 to challenge myself since its a fun game, and Howard to punch in the face.
Yeah fuck him, I used to have a Full Tilt account and that could have been my money. Need my money for taco bell 5 buck boxes and also other things. Do you gamble much on non-skill games? Or any games involving a house advantage? The best was right after all this shit last year, his wife tried to release her own jewelry line at the WSOP. I reaaaalllllly wanted to go up and just request my jewelry since it was clearly paid for with a bunch of our cash.
Do you think that in 2011/2012 the online games have got a lot tougher to beat? How far can you go with ABC poker online? What level can you beat with this technique? Is playing multitable with reasonably good regs profitable at high levels? 1- I think the low to mid stakes online have actually gotten considerably easier. A lot of the serious low to mid stakes grinders ended up moving on to other things leaving a bit of a vacuum at these stakes. I think the higher stakes have gotten a bit more difficult with a lot of the fish exiting the market. They are slowly returning though from my observations. 2- I honestly think pretty straight forward ABC can beat almost any level of poker. My deepest live run at the EPT Villamoura stop, I literally played straight forward ABC for all 6 days. No crazy bluffs, no wild floats etc etc, just played my cards optimally and made solid reads. Everyone else got out of line and paid when I had it. There are a few adjustments you can occasionally make - getting more aggressive on the bubble, stealing some blinds when the antes kick in, but for the most part the ABC can beat all levels. 4- Profitability defffffinetly goes way down when you start playing with all regs. I still think there are a lot of regs that are profitable that have leaks that can be exploited. I'm pretty positive I have leaks that can be exploited as well. So to answer the question, yes they can be profitable but definitely tougher to beat.
Has your game been impacted by becoming well known? I have heard every donk on the table wants to felt the big name pro so if it's true, how do you adapt to that? Its interesting, because I never really experienced this until very very recently. As per being known at live tournaments, I get noticed and recognized a lot less than some people might expect. They usually just look at me and go, "oh look some crazy internet kid," just because I'm young, pale and have zero sense of style :)
The crazy part is since I signed with Lock and they made my screenname highlighted in red on there, I feel like a baby goat in a sea of wolves. I have NEVER had people try and make plays and bluff me as much as I'm experiencing on there. It's increased so much that I've had to make strategic adjustments to how I play.
I basically always tell people I want to play opposite of everyone else. If everyone is going to try and bluff me and run over me every pot, I choose to just sit back, pick up a hand and let them bluff off the world to me. It's nice to almost always get action on hands, it is a bit more boring though. Winning poker isn't always "fun poker" lol.
$3 million in winnings? Feeling charitable? :D. Haha, as of late I've been gladly donating back to the community, not by choice though lol.
Story? Not a super eventful one; just on a bit of a downswing. Nothing huge, I just always get annoyed when I don't win.
Oh I thought your neighbouring community I didn't get it as the ''Poker Community'' ! I thought you had gone nuts with that money and somewhat landed in trouble that required you to pay back to the community. Hah, I am a bit of a wild one at times, but thankfully no on that...so far.
Does phil Hellmuth really bitch about every hand or is that some gimmick? I actually did a TV show with Phil a few years ago, here's a link to an article about it.
Best Damn Poker Show
Basically, I asked Phil this question directly. His response was basically, he does get upset when people do moronic things but a lot of the over the top reactions are aimed at branding himself as the Poker Brat. Everyone loves to hate someone, and also loves to see what they're going to do next. This is pretty much what he's shooting for which I understand and thinks is prolly business smart, just a lot to deal with if you're the one getting berated.
3 or 4 bet Hellmuth and he will get pissed. You'd be surprised how often if you give someone shit for 3 or 4 betting how often they'll never do it as a bluff again.
Is Bellande's twitter not the most comical poker twitter feed going or what? I mean who is that guys backer? haha. Lol, I don't follow him but definitely going to check it out. I actually hammered one night in Canada at the NAPT jokingly tried to trade my gf at the time for a rack of chips from him. I was joking of course but apparently she didn't find the humor. Maybe this is the reason I'm single now lol.
Dude, check it out. Its hilarious. He's def getting a new follower.
Why do you play under a recognizable screenname online? Doesn't it make you more of a target/predictable? I think when I started playing, I had dreams of being a notable player, someone people recognized. Not so much to be a fame whore, but more for validation that I truly made it in the industry. It's def a lot easier to brand yourself this way if there is congruency in who you are everywhere.
From a direct dollar making stand point though, different screennames is probably +ev.
Makes sense. I'll prolly stick with the same screennames/image for the rest of time. I've started expanding my poker career into teaching, writing and some other aspects to make money outside of just playing. I also don't really mind if I lose a little bit of EV to help advance the other poker related endeavors.
Considering your skill, at what point do you imagine letting go of the pro image to make money anonymously? Do you not already have multiple accounts for this? There are also some perks to knowing people think they know how you normally play. It allows you to take some unconventional lines some times because you know people think they know how you always play things. (If that made sense lol)
Also, pokerstars or fulltilt (or other)? No multiple accounts for this guy, JaspudUF till I die :)
I like your integrity. Thanks for answering my questions! Of course, hope the info helps some :)
Ever splash the pot? Every chance I get :)
What would you advise to anyone looking to use Poker as a source of income in the future? How often do you play? Biggest Win? McDonalds or KFC? I would say make sure that you truly are being honest with yourself about being a winner or a loser at the game. So many people tell me they beat the game and when we sit down and actually look at numbers, they're lieing to themselves. If you do find you are winning consistently, make sure its enough to sustain your desired life and more importantly you have a cushion in case of an inevitable bad run. I prolly play 3-4 days a week, I used to obsessively play 6-7 days a week but I think that was not good for the health.
KFC if I'm running good, McDonalds after a bad session. No questions asked there haha.
What are your other hobbies? I'm a gym rat, I kickbox and do jui-jitsu (although I havent in a few months since I've been traveling a lot :/ Reddit and internet humor have become amazing hobbies as of late lol and my number 1 hobby is actually people watching. I love the nonverbal communication/psychology side of poker and life, and just chilling trying to study what people are thinking amuses the hell out of me.
I actually have to tell girls on dates that when I'm constantly staring over there shoulders at other people its not because I dont enjoy their company but just obsessed with people watching. lol.
Such a romantic! I need to hit the gym. When I'm much older I think instead of jigsaw building and wetting myself I will take up Poker. At the moment money isn't available to piss away. For non money games I have been good online, however I think I would be awful under pressure. My buddies grandma just came into town and she might be the biggest gamblecard player I've ever met in my life. If I tried to make her do a jigsaw puzzle, she'd ask me how much I want to play for per piece. Def a mind stimulating game.
What are you planning to play at the WSOP this year? How many events? I cant wait to watch the "Drop in the Bucket" tourney. Im surprised Ivey hasnt confirmed yet....I realize he has a lot of shit goin on with FT and his divorce and shit. That Drop in the Bucket tourney will be insane if it runs. I hear a few rumors that even though they have a bunch of confirmed players, no ones put the cash down yet. I can't confirm this but its what I'm hearing. As per me, I'm going to try and play as many of the hold em events as possible. I took last summer off and am completely drooling waiting to play this year.
I always try and get backing for the series, which I haven't yet started looking into this year but that usually helps dictate how much I'm going to play. I paid for the series myself one year and frankly the potential swings on that are huge and very few players are anywhere close to properly bankrolled for these tourneys.
The series is the most fun time of the year but its also for about 95% of the players, the most frustrating time of the year. You get so excited about the potential of the cash and a bracelet and then if you don't prevail, its tough to pick yourself up and come back the next day for more of a pounding lol.
Do you remember a few years ago, theres was this dude from NY a few years ago that had a blog on Pokerroad that would go ape shit on his blog after he busted from a WSOP prelim? I cant remember his name but it was hilarious. Joe Sebok supplied with a cam to record that shit. Lol, I don't but if you find a link to it, please post...I love watching people tilt haha.
Theres only a few dudes that are rolled for that Drop in a Bucket...Guy Laliberte, a few Asian businessmen, and that dude that owns a few casinos in vegas. Yea sooooooo few people are rolled for that. I've heard that they're going to run regional satellites but haven't seen any links or anything. I'm going to choose not to play that one, unless someone gives me a milly to play it. I won't say no :)
This dude Eugene Todd theres a few on there...if you can find the pokerroad blogs...they are epic. Lol, I just watched about 45 seconds of the intro to his new show. I think I'm somehow on tilt already.
Do you play for fun or just for the money? Also, what's the most you've ever won in a day? I actually do play for fun quite a bit with friends; I almost always lose when I play for fun too lol...When I'm playing to make money, I still love the game and the adrenaline rush accompanied. I stopped loving it for a while last year and got burnt out and immediately took like 8 months off. Best move ever...My largest score was $240k for a 3rd place in an EPT. I guess technically that's 6 days but still my biggest win.
So you won that $240k..what % did you have to pay in taxes? What was your net from that $240k? I was backed in the event; so half of it went to the backers right away. I was in whatever the higher tax bracket was that year, so the taxes on that were rough. The toughest part some card players deal with is taxes aren't always immediately withheld on winnings, so you have to put money aside for when it's time to pay taxes. I have some friends that have won tournaments, spent all the money and come tax time had to figure something out to be able to cover the bill to Uncle Sam.
I would imagine winning the $8.8M 1st prize in the Main Event, they net around $5?M after paying 30-40% in taxes? I'm lucky that my parents stayed involved in my life the past few years to inform me of these things before I also went and did something stupid like that. I try my hardest to share this info with my friends, it occasionally sinks in.
What's the most amazing poker hand you've ever been in? Someone asked this earlier and I couldnt think of an answer, but I think I've thought of one that amused me quite a bit. When I did Good Morning America, we spent a good amount of time teaching George Stephanopoulos the basics of tournament poker. He was definitely a beginner but seemed to be picking up things pretty quickly.
The tournament we ended up playing was a super turbo so things were moving pretty quickly. The gist of the hand was George actually limp trapped me with Queens and owned me on national television. Now, with stack sizes and all it wasn't an amazing trap or anything but I just found it hilarious that he came up with a decent move himself and was able to bust me. I was half proud and half blah lol.
What kind of stakes do you play online? Prior to Black Friday, I would try and play the biggest tourneys they had online and was able to get enough volume with those. Since Black Friday, there are still some good higher buy-in tournaments but not quite enough to fulfill my ADD requirements so I find myself playing everything from the highest buyins down to even playing $20 tournaments.
Cash is cash, even making a lot of money I still get happy when I win $1. Its a perspective I hope to ALWAYS hold on to.
Do you think that poker as a game has peaked? If not, when do you think this will happen? Do you think you could re-create your success starting today from zero? Do you think that online is much harder to win at than live? How many hours a day do you play? I dont think its peaked, I think when things go all out in the states with legislation we're gonna see an explosion. I think I could, all it is is a willingness to learn, hard work and dedication. All you really need outside of that is emotional control and I think there might be some form of x factor to it. I think 1 game vs 1 game, online can be tougher, but the ability to multi table allows you to severely cut down on your variance and I think make more in the long run. When I play, usually 8-10 hrs...I've played as much as 37 before though lol I guess technically that wouldn't be in one day. After that sesh, you could have convinced me it was though.
What have you done with your winnings? Done a poor job of saving my winnings but a great job of spending it :) Basically, lived "the life", partied, caused trouble etc etc. Trying to change that this year. Practice and read everything you can get your hands on.
Thanks. :) Out of your winnings, after tax and stakes how much are you at? I think there's always the dream of millions for players but taxes must hurt..:( Taxes are never the fun part haha, I'm not sure exactly where this falls...I'll see if I can pull up records later today and give you a stronger idea of the impact there.
How long did it take for you to become a pro? How did your family/close ones take to you playing excessively? Well... - Started playing when my friends invited me to a home game in college. I was officially the worst lol - After that, I played pretty much every day and read anything and everything I could get my hands on. I think it was maybe like a year later that I started making some dollars and maybe 6 months past that I decided to look at making it a full time gig. - Great question here...I came from a super straight laced, military family. If you can imagine how the phrase of "I want to gamble for a living" went over, it was rough at first. Luckily my parents were somewhat open to the thought of it and basically said, we'll support it as long as you can prove its a viable career and you can sustain a living at it.
How long did it take for you to become a winning player? Where did you mainly play online? Did/do you use good bankroll management? About a year into learning and playing I started actually making positive cash flow. Thankfully before that I stayed playing pretty low so I didn't really lose much. - I used to play predominately on Stars, Tilt and UB. Way back in the day it was Paradise. Now a days, exclusively at Lock. - Its funny, about 99% of my career I have except for my first decent score. I had $120 bucks online and put $60 bucks into a $30 rebuy (oops lol). Ended up cashing for about 3k I think it was and post that returned to being a good boy for the most part in the BR management department.
Best fold you have ever made? Best call? Is it "better" to make a wrong call, or the wrong laydown? Fave hand that you have seen on TV? Best and worst TV pro? Fave and least fave TV pro? The problem with "the best fold you ever made" is you never really know unless your opponent shows you...there are times I was pretty sure I made a rockstar lay down but can't really be sure... They always say its better to make an incorrect fold than a bad call, it costs you less. I think personally a mistake is a mistake and all should be treated the same in your mind (from a learning stand point).
Best TV pro is prolly Ivey...and worst is everyone that's cocky... especially players that go deep in 1 event and immediately start talking about how they're the greatest thing since sliced bread. I'll refrain from mentioning names to avoid the awkward situations lol My fav pros to watch are either my friends or players that are better than me so I can not only be entertained but also learn at the same time.
What's your reading recommendation to get into online poker? I want to prepare now that online gambling is legal. Do you mean in regards to strategy or the logistics of getting back on?
Well, you've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run. You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table, there'll be time enough for countin' When the dealin's done. I still randomly sing this at the table :)
Strategies. I know for online there are software programs that measure certain metrics, like how likely the person will fold for certain card combination. I'm a newb.. I want to understand how to analyze the card probabilities & apply user playing history to gain an edge. What's the best book to learn this? Honestly, the best way to win online is just to have strong fundamentals. It sounds like an answer thats "too easy to be true" but in reality, majority of the players you encounter online are really bad and will make mistakes for you. I play more ABC poker than most people would probably expect. I rarely run crazy bluffs or anything like that, unless I'm bored, feel like being a moron or have had a few adult beverages :)
No real question here, just wanted to say thanks for doing the AMA. I've been waiting to hear from a pro poker player for awhile now. Best of luck! Edit: Actually I lied! How do you/any pro players you know, feel about shows like Daniel's "million dollar challenge"? Do you think it hurts the image of poker at all, or helps? Thanks :) Of course, I'm really enjoying it :) Glad to see people are reading and also enjoying.
How did you get started in terms of bankroll nursing? At what point did you feel you could make a living off it? I literally started with $1 tournaments for quite a while and was able to grind it up to like $120 (back in the day on Paradise). I decide one day that taking half of my bank roll and playing a $30 rebuy would be a great idea (I do not recommend this lol). I ended up getting like 6th or 7th for a few thousand. I was in college at the time and a few k, makes you rich haha. About a week later, I final tabled the same tournament for a few thousand more and then started grinding the low low buy-in multis. Blessed with a little run good, here we are today.
It was basically about 6-8 months after those scores that I really started to think there was a possibility I could do it for a living. It was about 1 year after those tournaments that I really seriously began doing it full time.
Thanks! I'll keep grinding then :)). Are you going the the EPT grand final btw? Probably not hitting many of the EPT's this year. That flight from the States is always brutal. I'm enjoying traveling a little less this year. At least thats what I always say and then I end up traveling a ton lol.
Besides you, Daniel Negreanu is one of my favorite poker players. How is he to play against? Is there a person that you seem to either always have trouble with or have bad luck playing against? Well thank you :P Negreanu is definitely a tough player to play against. I think there a lot of other players that have equal the reading skills, but just choose not to vocalize it. It's the worst feeling in the world when someone pegs your hand exactly and lets you know.
There are definitely people that have basically owned my soul in the past. The funny part is its never a well known pro or anything like that. Its usually some guy or girl that seems to be absolutely clueless at the table. This has happened A LOT lol Nothing gets close to tilting more than when this happens. I usually just ask them if they just want me to give them the passwords to my bank accounts.
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